November 2013

“MUD Club”
 Next Meeting: Tuesday, November 19, 2013
Andrews University, Biology Amphitheater, Price Hall, Berrien Springs, MI

Meetings start @ 7:30 p.m.  (Every 3rd Tuesday of every month except December)

November Meeting:  Agenda

Welcome visitors, present club information & general dive related news, identify upcoming dive related events, and present any Show & Tell, Ask who’s been diving, and discuss any experiences & lessons learned, and then Open Session. After the meeting we adjourn to Roma’s for pizza.

          Specific items for November:

1st: This is ELECTION month for Club President, VP, Treasurer, Newsletter editor, and Club Web Site keeper.

Bob S has been President for the last 2 years and VP for two years before that and has done a great job especially with the mini-classes presented at many of the 2012 & 2013 meetings.  Don M has been either President or VP for the last five years plus so it is time for new blood to take this opportunity to lead the Mud Club in 2014.

With that said, Ric K. has agreed to continue being the Treasurer (+ten years) and  Don M has volunteered to continue to generate the Newsletter (+20 yrs) and maintain the MUD Club web site (4 years) unless someone really wants to take those reins.

2nd: 2013Turkey Dive is scheduled for November 30 at 12:00 (High Noon). Dive site to be determined by the water conditions at that time. Options currently are:  (1) Fisherman’s Park – Benton Harbor (2) Whirlpool Basin –St. Joe) or (3) Marmont Launch – Niles.  Contact number to confirm location on the day of dive is Mac @ 429-5527.

3rd:  New Years Eve Party & Midnight Dive on Dec 31. To be hosted by Jeri & Larry Steelman with dive in Barron Lake, Niles.

4th: 2014, Jan 1, (the 2nd) Dive of the new year: -> Tentative attendance at Grand Haven river dive or with SASS at Gull lake. Check club web site for additional details as the date approaches.

5thDiver Survey RequestComments by Mack – refer to comments at newsletter end.

 Overview of October Meeting highlights:

13 Present at last month’s meeting. Discussed the Michigan Underwater Preserve Council (MUPC) meeting Oct 13, the West MUP “Shipwrecks & Technology” presentation October 19 in Grand Haven, and Re-breather demos attended by Jim S & Darrin J.  Planned events include: Bonne Terre mine trip February 2014 (Wolfs), The Great Lakes Shipwreck Festival in the spring, Our World U/W – February 14-16, 2014, Rosemont, IL and Maritime Festival – Great Lakes Maritime Heritage Center/July. Dives discussed included Diamond, Eagle, Cora, Gull, Woods lakes, Mack’s wreck, Clay Banks (Grand Mere) and St Joseph river.  MUD Club dive videos available on Youtube under Bob Sweeney.

Its autumn dive time, the local waters are still “soft” but definitely getting cooler. Get in now and get wet before the hard water sets in.   

Diver Survey

I received this emailed survey request as noted below.  The first item is her initial request and the other 4 are responses back and forth. The survey is important because it WILL eventually influence those in our government that also make laws.

Item 1

From: “Joanne Edney” <> To: Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 1:06:34 AM

Subject: Dive research

Hi, I am a recreational scuba diver and PhD candidate at Charles Sturt University in Australia doing research into scuba diving. I was hoping you may be able to assist me by sending the link to my online survey to other divers in your dive club.

Survey link: (attached to emailed newsletters)

I am very keen to get as many recreational divers as possible to participate in the survey, regardless of their level of experience, and am inviting all recreational divers from across the US to get on board. The survey aims to gain a better understanding of recreational divers, in particular, their demographic and dive experience characteristics and their motivations for diving. It also seeks to gain more specific information about wreck divers, a special interest group of divers that little is known about. Knowing more about divers is important because it gives dive and tourism operators, and resource planners and managers information which allows them to plan for, and provide, the types of dive experiences that more closely match with what divers want. It also helps dive and tourism operators with their marketing and promotion.

I am not collecting names or any other information that would identify individuals and only analyzed data will be reported on and published, so all participants will remain anonymous.
If you would like to know more about my research, my website ( contains more detailed information about my study. It also lists publications from previous research I have undertaken on scuba diving and information about my diving and professional background. The results of my research will be made available on the website.

Thanks in anticipation.

Joanne Edney  –  PhD Candidate School of Environmental Sciences I Charles Sturt University

PO Box 789  I Albury NSW 2640 Australia – Phone + 6 1 451 459 909

Email  Website:     

About the research

The aim of this research is to gain a better understanding of recreational scuba divers, in particular their demographic characteristics and motivations for diving. It also seeks to gain more specific information about wreck divers, their motivations for wreck diving, attitudes to the types of management controls used to protect wrecks and their feelings about wrecks which are deliberately sunk as artificial reefs for scuba divers. Gaining a better understanding of divers is important because it helps resource planners and regulators, dive and tourism operators plan for and offer the types of dive experiences divers are seeking.

This survey is the method being used for collecting information about divers. The study does not collect any information that will identify individuals, and responses will remain anonymous. The data collected by this survey will be analyzed and form part of a PhD. The results of the analysis may also be published in academic publications and presented at conferences. The data collected will be stored securely and kept until the research has been completed and results published. At the end of this period, all electronic records of the data will be deleted and any hard copies of the data will be destroyed.

If you are a recreational scuba diver I am keen to hear from you. I am interested in knowing about your motivations and attitudes towards diving. This research is part of my post graduate research studies at Charles Sturt University in Australia that seek to gain a better understanding of recreational diver demographic characteristics, motivations and attitudes.
The survey should take no more than 15-20 minutes for you to complete. Knowing more about divers is important because it can help resource planners and managers, as well as dive and tourism operators to better understand divers and to plan and offer the types of dive experiences you are seeking.

You need to be at least 18 years of age to participate. Participation in this survey is voluntary and you can terminate the survey at any time.

The survey link and complete post of responses and questions are within the emailed newsletter attachment.  Please read as it WILL eventually affect diving & divers in the USA. Please let me know your feelings on this subject and if you completed her survey with comments or not. I will have additional correspondence with her as well as other scuba clubs and organizations but really need your comments.   For those not receiving the newsletter with the attachment, if you want a copy send me your email. Thanks, Mack

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